There seems to be a lot of hype about the recent announcement by Zack Snyder that Batman will appear in the next Superman movie. Now, here at The Hollywood News we love superheroes of all kinds, but there seems to be a bit of a debate about which comic book heroes are better: Marvel or DC? Do you prefer Iron Man and Captain America, or do the Green Lantern and Aquaman take your fancy just a bit more? I definitely prefer Marvel to DC, so here are some reasons why:
1. The characters are easier to relate to:
The majority of Marvel’s superheroes are human – think Iron Man, Spiderman, Wolverine – they are all human. There are some (like the X-Men) who, despite accidents which turn them into mutants, are still inherently human. When we look at Superman, the Flash and Aquaman, they’re not really thought of as ‘people’. They live their lives completely differently from us, and it’s really their job to be superheroes (I know Clark Kent is a journalist but that is just a clever rouse).
2. The Avengers is a better team than the Justice League:
This really stems from the first point; in the Avengers, the only ‘non-human’ (I say this because he is technically a God) is Thor, whereas in the Justice League, you have a lot of supernatural influence. The Avengers bounce off each other, and their team dynamic allows them to combat evil fairly spontaneously. The Justice League requires organization and planning – which is fine if you’re planning a tea party, but not to save the world.
3. DC characters are killed off too easily:
Both Marvel and DC have pretty poor records for killing off their characters, but when DC insist on having invincible Gods and aliens as superheroes, who are eventually killed off, it really defeats the point of them being superheroes.
4. We will never be able to take Aquaman seriously:
The dude’s mode of transportation is a seahorse. No further comment needed.
5. It’s the heroes who make Marvel, not the villains:
When someone says Marvel, whom do you think of? Iron Man, Thor, Silver Surfer, Captain Marvel, the Hulk, Captain America, Wolverine, Professor X, Cyclops, Nicky Fury…the list goes on and on. When someone says DC, whom do you think of? The Joker, Bane, Lex Luthor, General Zod, V, there’s even an Anti-Justice League. These are all great characters, I do not doubt that, but the Marvel list is of superheroes, earth’s saviours. DC’s list is a group of rather exceptional but incredibly evil characters.
Obviously, this list isn’t extensive, as both have their pros and cons. However, I do prefer Marvel superheroes and what they bring to the comic books and the big screen. Even whilst watching MAN OF STEEL, I still didn’t feel the excitement and energy that was had from watching IRON MAN or X-MEN. However, something DC can do well is graphic novels such as Watchmen, V For Vendetta and Sandman, which are all brilliant creations.
What do you think: Is Marvel really better than DC? Let us know!
Andre
Jul 23, 2013 at 1:13 pm
“Why Marvel is better than DC?” Really? What are we, twelve? Heck even when I was twelve I understood each has their strengths and weaknesses. Because, you know, I actually read and enjoyed both. I take it you haven’t.
Matt Dennis
Jul 23, 2013 at 2:22 pm
Hate to be that guy, but in X-Men people are born as Mutants, not transformed into them by accidents.
Hecky Mander
Jul 24, 2013 at 4:01 pm
Firstly, DC is better than Marvel!
Secordly, DC have four of the best superheroes. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman & The Flash.
Lastly, joss whedon ripped off JLA
AL
Aug 12, 2013 at 7:26 pm
Seriously ? Do you even remotely know what you are talking about ? Mutanta are born mutants not caused by and accident. The flash aside from his powers is more of a relatable human than wolverine or iron man. There are barely any supernatural characters in the justice league, super human sure but not supernatural. Thor is a god, he died, did that defeat the purpose of him being a superhero ? And when people think DC they think Superman, Batman, Wonderwoman. All That said, i love both companies equally. But you really should at least TRY to know what you are talking about if you are going to write an article like this.
vee
Oct 13, 2013 at 6:35 am
bullshit all your biase opinions
whodabez
Oct 18, 2013 at 9:59 pm
complete crap. clearly you are a marvel fan who cant admit that DC is the shit! Yeah sure marvel is still very good but c’mon JLA kills Marvel even when Marvel have their million bunch of superheroes its like everyone on the planets a hero (poor marvel).
Aquaman's Savior
Oct 26, 2013 at 6:15 am
Aquaman may be looked on as a petty character that can’t do anything but talk to his seahorse and dolphin friends, but, there is much more to Aquaman than most probably know, and here are some of the reasons why Aquaman is indeed a very super hero.
Aquaman’s most under looked power is his telepathic ability to communicate with marine life, which can be used from large distances. The part under looked is the fact that Aquaman has at times demonstrated the ability to affect any being that lives around the sea, or even any being evolved from marine life (humans).
With the obvious ability to breathe underwater Aquaman also has a few other abilities that people might not know about. Aquaman has superhuman durability high enough to remain unaffected by the immense pressure and the cold temperature of the ocean depths, this also makes him tough enough to beinvulnerable to machine gun fire. Along with that he also has superhuman strength and can swim at high speeds, able to reach speeds of 10,000 feet per second and can swim up Niagara Falls. He can see in near total darkness and has enhanced hearing granting limited sonar. Although he can remain underwater indefinitely without suffering any ill effects, Aquaman grows weak if he remains on land for extended periods. But, good old Batman invented Aquaman’s water suit so he was able to walk on land for an indefinite amount of time and was no longer vulnerable to a “dehumidifier”.
After the loss of his left hand, Aquaman replaced it with a cybernetic retractable hook, then a cybernetic hand. The mechanical hand was replaced by a magical hand made out of water given to him by the Lady of the Lake, which grants Aquaman numerous abilities, including the ability to dehydrate anyone he touches and kill them instantly, the ability to shoot jets of water from his hand, scalding or freezing, healing abilities, the ability to create portals into mystical dimensions, and the ability to communicate with the Lady of the Lake through the waterbearer hand.
Aquaman’s trident is indestructible, made of a magical gold substance and even strong enough to make Superman bleed. Another power of the Trident is the ability to electrocute objects. Also water can be fired from the tip of the Trident with temperatures from scorching, to below zero.
Don’t dis AQUAMAN!
Jon H
Nov 24, 2013 at 11:13 pm
Your final statement made me realize something. It’s not the companies/characters we are really comparing. It’s the creators who made these characters and work for the companies. Most of whom have worked for both companies. Take Watchmen and V for Vendetta. Both were written by Alan Moore. Yes, they were printed by DC (V for Vendetta was not originally), but they were written by a person, not a magical company which makes it’s own comics. If Alan Moore had decided to go with Marvel to print them, everyone would be saying how Marvel is more serious and helped to ground superheroes more, not DC. It wasn’t DC’s idea, it was Moore’s. Plus even as a huge Marvel fan, I find some of your “facts” very sloppily and inaccurately put together. This is why Marvel fans usually lose these arguments. You need to get your facts straight before you can convince people of your stance. Just a few corrections for you: Mutants are born with their powers, they don’t gain them. That’s the whole point of mutants being labeled different and feared by the public, unlike other heroes. As for characters being killed off, it’s a pretty common known fact that Marvel is the one who is constantly killing characters. Yes DC kills em off sometimes too, but not like Marvel likes to. Jean Grey has been killed and brought back so many times that people joke about it. Captain America, Human Torch, Nightcrawler, and even Spider-Man have all died in the last few years, only for all of them to reappear shortly after (not Spidey yet). Marvel has been doing a botch job a lot of times since Quesada took over, especially with all these ridiculous deaths, which many fans just laugh off, because we know they aren’t permanent, making the stories usually a big waste of time, and just a way for Marvel to get some more hype resulting in more cash.
Yes, I think Auqaman is lame too, but I’m not so stupid as to say he’s a bad character. He’s still in the comics, and therefore obviously there’s some things that a good about him, otherwise he wouldn’t have enough fans to keep his own series.
As for your last point, that list is dumb. People think of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman ahead of those villains. Maybe those villains are ahead of a lot of their heroes, but they still have a good amount of heroes that are widely known and popular. And saying Marvel is only known for their heroes is vindictive too. Magneto, Loki, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin? I can guarantee you the majority of people who know even just a little about superhero movies/comics knows who these characters are.
End rant.
Jon H
Nov 24, 2013 at 11:20 pm
How did he “rip off” the JLA? If anything, your comment should sound more like “Stan Lee ripped off the JLA/Justice League”. I am not in agreement with you though. You don’t give any reasons why, so I can only assume that you mean they copied by having a team. So anybody superhero team to come after the JLA is copying just because they’re team? That’s completely stupid. I really don’t see any strong similarities between the 2 besides that. It’s not like the character are rip offs. Captain America, Hulk, Iron Man, Thor, Hawkeye, Ms. Marvel, Black Widow, Vision, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Ant-Man, Wasp: Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, Martian Manhunter, Black Canary, Green Arrow, Aquaman, Hawk Man. The only characters there that are similar are Quicksilver and Flash, and Hawkeye and Green Arrow. If you read comics though, you’ll know they are very different characters besides their power sets. Don’t even get me started on Marvel/DC copying characters, because DC has “copied” just as much as Marvel or any other company has.
Jon H
Nov 24, 2013 at 11:20 pm
Yes!
Bizzy4chem
Dec 21, 2013 at 2:50 pm
Very stupid argument. I’m not saying dc is better but your argument is stupid and what’s with all this marvel heroes are more relatable crap? Because mutants, gamma radiation freaks and wealthy billionaires are relatable right? Wrong
Dark knight
Jan 22, 2014 at 6:57 am
You know what’s funny my fav superhero is batman and for a long time I always thought I was a dc fan but for some reason I always read more marvel comics then dc and just gravitated to it more. Until recently I came to the fact that I am a marvel fan more then a DC, but I still love both.
ML
Apr 10, 2014 at 2:57 am
Captain Marvel is DC…
Bob Lowbodyngs
Apr 22, 2014 at 4:04 am
He’s talking about there characters.
Prathmesh Tiwari
Jul 3, 2014 at 9:20 am
D.C. > Marvel
Waeast
Dec 12, 2014 at 4:31 pm
I think where Marvel beats dc hands down is when you start looking past the top characters and you see that DC has a VERY weak bench of secondary characters. Arrow, Blue Beetle, Suicide Squad are cool but after that it gets pretty thin. Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Ant-Man, Guardians of the Galaxy, Nova, and I can really keep going for awhile. It feels like with DC they think everything needs to be part of the batman/superman universe to work. All the new titles are simply branch offs of that, I mean superboy, night wing, supergirl, batwing, talon, azrael, red hood….. I think you get the point. Animal Man might be the only unique character DC has put money into that wasn’t batman or superman but that was kind of dumb luck really
Bobzilla
Dec 23, 2014 at 1:43 am
Ellen, you madam are a biased moron. First, DC is not defined by their villains although it is true their villains are more recognizable than Marvel’s (In fact DC villains are more recognizable than a lot of Marvel HEROES). Flash, Green Lantern, Superman, Wonder Woman and Batman are all more iconic than most Marvel characters save for maybe Spider-Man and Wolverine which negates your statement saying that we only know DC because of the Joker and others villains. Second, when you say “anti-Justice League” I assume you’re referring to the Crime Syndicate or Injustice League, you are neglecting the fact that anti-Avengers exist as well, known as the Masters of Evil.
john joe
Dec 26, 2014 at 8:45 am
1, You think its easy to relate to a angry green mutant? or a over intelligent drunk guy in a iron suit? At least superman trys to be human. Thor is worshiped as a god who swings around a powerful magical hammer. How many people can relate to that?
2.You think the avengers is a better team? Your right dc does require organization but what kind of team would they be if they were not organized? The avengers you have a rampaging green mutant, a stubborn god, drunk in a iron suit, 2 boring assassins/spys, and captain america. captain america is the only one who even resembles a hero. I dont even understand how the rest of the team manages.
3. dc characters are rarely killed of and marvel has way more godlike characters compared to dc and you call dc gods invincible when they strongest thing they can probably do is throw a tank while marvels gods can destroy planets with 1 hand tied behind the dam backs.
4, whats does that have to do with anything? Thor travels by a fucking hammer.Where i come from we use hammers to build things and thor is flying in the sky with one. At least aqua man’s mode of transportation makes sense.
5. When i hear marvel I think of hulk smash which sounds pretty dam violent. When i hear dc I think of superman who is the incarnation of JUSTICE.
Ryan
Jan 23, 2015 at 9:29 pm
He actually has a point with the relatable stuff. I can’t relate to anyone in dc and I don’t want to. El oh el. Also why is it that every single person commenting is a DC fan
Ryan the marvel cutie
Jan 23, 2015 at 9:31 pm
DC has like two fun characters. The flash and…. Oh just the flash.
piefork
Feb 5, 2015 at 8:22 pm
The person who wrote this article obviously has no clue what they are talking about. Accidents causing mutations what? Captain Marvel is DC, not Marvel. Get your crap straight, you look like an idiot with this drivel you are spilling on the internet.
DC > Marvel
Rick
Feb 5, 2015 at 9:43 pm
C’mon, you don’t hear the Avengers being introduced as: Gathered together from the cosmic reaches of the universe – here in this great hall of justice – are the most powerful forces of good ever assembled…
miles morales
Feb 6, 2015 at 8:18 pm
Actually captain marvel is now marvel and the captain marvel of DC is just Shazam, read your comics noobz!
billy
Feb 13, 2015 at 5:44 pm
I can’t believe someone actually let this article, or whatever you what to call, it get published. A child must of uploaded this online from one of his school assignments, and probably received a B grade. After celebrating, he decided it was good enough to generate some buzz because of the title alone. Try again buddy. It’s ok to like one company over the other, it’s your right, but you have to state your comments in a much better fashion. I guess your teacher didn’t understand the true nature of your “facts”, and only went by what Disney/Marvel has been able to accomplish lately, which is basically popular culture or similar to pop music. It’s all flashy content, and very little substance, and that’s a sad statement coming from me, a Marvel fan for the past few decades.
Miranda
Mar 1, 2015 at 7:44 pm
I will agree that the last thing about hearing DC and thinking about the villains is pretty stupid because you would think of Superman or Batman first, I think the rest of them have a point. (well the Aquaman one has an exception) It is really hard to relate to any of the characters from DC. The Avengers are able to defeat the villains in a better manner because of how well they do things on the spot. Finally, DC does kill of the characters too quickly and too frequently. I do think however that both DC and Marvel have their strengths and that some of this persons thoughts are incorrect.
Nathan
Apr 20, 2015 at 11:20 pm
Movies- marvel
Comics- equal
Video games- DC
Animations- DC
Live Action TV shows- DC
Marvel just has more and better movies which is arguably the most important, but DC has better everything else. DC>Marvel
magegg
Apr 21, 2015 at 5:40 am
I do prefer Marvel over DC, but whoever wrote this is a complete ignorant that chooses the worst points to make a statement.
Marvel Man
Apr 24, 2015 at 11:51 pm
cool.
Polark1ng99
May 20, 2015 at 9:11 am
*sigh* it’s weird how many DC fans clicked on an article about how marvel is better than DC. Also CAPTAIN MARVEL IS MARVEL NOT DC YOU KRIFFING MORONS. sorry about that. I do think a better argument though would be that the marvel cinematic universe is better than dc’s. Dc is extremely repetitive while marvel brings something new to the screen every time. But in the there are two types of people in the world: people who will defend marvel to the death (like mwah), and people who will defend DC to the death. And there’s no changing that.
Polark1ng99
May 21, 2015 at 12:50 am
Captain marvel is also a DC character but he goes by Shazam
Gotham
May 21, 2015 at 1:27 pm
Marvel will always be better than DC.Marvel has so many better characters such as eternity and infinity,the last tribunal and the one above who can easily beat DC with a blink of an eye.
Gotham
May 21, 2015 at 1:32 pm
AND ALL OF YOU WHO LIKE DC SUCK A LOT.ALL OF YOU DC FANS SUCK.Thats it.AND MARVEL WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER THAN DC.
jbone32
May 24, 2015 at 8:09 am
For everyone who says, “Captian Marvel is DC not Marvel,” you’re half right. There is a Captain Marvel in DC, and there is a Captain Marvel in Marvel. Actually, there are two main Captain Marvels in Marvel.
Billy Batson is the DC character, although he was not originally owned by DC. He was a child who followed an old guy into a sewer and was given super powers based off of Greed and Jewish heroes and gods.
Mar Vel is the first Marvel character, and he was a genetically altered alien who gained increased strength, speed, the ability to fly and energy blasts and was sent to earth to assimilate it into the Kree Empire. He eventually fell in love with the planet, fought to defend it, and died of cancer.
Carol Danvers is the second Marvel character, she’s a former air force pilot who, while protecting Mar Vel gained his powers. For a long time she went by the name Ms Marvel, but recently changed it to Captain Marvel.
About people who claim that these character can’t easier to relate to because they’re mutants, aliens, robots, and irradiated beings, how far up your asses are your heads? He’s referring to their personalities. Think about it. Superman is a good guy. He’s heroic and… Wonder Woman is a good person. She’s heroic and… Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) is a good guy. He’s heroic and… Batman… well Batman is the only one of the main 4 to have more than one personality trait. Meanwhile, Iron-Man is a good guy. He’s heroic and a recovering alcoholic, and a billionaire industrialist playboy, and witty, and a futurist, and has a hero complex. Spider-Man is a good guy. He’s heroic, and witty, and scatterbrained, and nerdy, and indecisive, and tends to put others before himself. Wolverine is a good guy. He’s heroic, and surly, and a drunk, and fiercly loyal. Black Widow’s a good person. She’s heroic and flirtatious, and mischievous, and melancholic, and has a strong sense of duty.
dgsbds
Jun 3, 2015 at 10:43 am
this article is so retarded that I had to made a reply to. fucking shit.
Vanity Vixyn
Jul 14, 2015 at 11:00 am
I’ll always choose Marvel over DC!! They have better characters & better stories that are relatable. The only thing DC got going for them is the overrated Batman
Einstein Wafula
Jul 20, 2015 at 8:11 am
your reasons are way off..in short ur a marvel fan that does not like dc.To write an article like this you must be neutral
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Jul 25, 2015 at 5:35 am
DC practically copied Civil War by doing “Batman vs Superman”. Except batman and superman will be so obsessed trying to kill each other, while millions of people die because of them (nice. “I protect Gotham”). But Cap and Tony will actually care about the people. And Marvel has way better story lines. And the superheroes just.. aren’t that cool. And if those Superheros are the best… why isn’t there a flash movie or a Wonder woman movie? Marvel made Ant-Man. One of their worst comics, and that movie was great.
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Jul 25, 2015 at 5:37 am
DC and Marvel both have a Captain Marvel. 🙂
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Jul 25, 2015 at 5:39 am
Say that to TWO box office record breakers. And say that to Robert Redford. And heck, say that to the two movies that came in 2015, and the movies coming out in 2016. (Poor Batman vs Superman)
Swetha
Jul 29, 2015 at 9:46 am
Okay, personally, I prefer Marvel but what kind of arguments are these? Come up with something original please! Honestly, we’ll never take Aquaman seriously? What kind of argument is that?
Instead, a good argument would be that Marvel characters have more personality. For example, Deadpool had better personality than Deathstorke. Again, I’m not saying it’s good personality, I’m saying, more personality.
Another argument, DC characters are too convenient. Marvel makes realistic superheroes. Not too overpowered. For example, really DC? A guy with super speed, laser eyes,
Madison
Jul 29, 2015 at 10:53 pm
I insanely agree with his article. Besides the fact that my parents introduced me to this industry and I did not grow up with it, I can’t help but side with Marvel. I feel as if the DC industry loves to favor their major characters such as Batman and Superman. Look at how many Batman movies there has been compared to…I don’t know…Wonder Woman movies. However Marvel broadcasts many characters. Plus Batman is overrated….he’s a vigilante not a hero….there’s a difference…
Harry Truman
Aug 22, 2015 at 4:20 pm
At least they’re humans, dc uses ailiens, and God’s that are undetectable then dye, then suddenly come back, batmans a billionare, just as relatable, only less realistic
Harry Truman
Aug 22, 2015 at 4:26 pm
No, dc has way more characters than marvel, they coppy most of it from marvel, some from other stuff, and every once in a while they come up with stuff like Martian manhunter, a green bald guy with no shirt who wears suspenders and a vampire cape, or “shazam!” Who is a ten year old who get powers from, a wizard? Selfexplanitory, they stole firestorm from the human torch, they stole flash from quicksilver, and then deathstroke suit was made out of “damn! What was that metal marvel said wolverines bones were clad by? AdamI adom, I can only remember the first part, adiam!” Then they made Ares, they stole Ares and the “magic armor” from the illiad with hephastuses armor, they just didn’t bother to remember his name.
Harry Truman
Aug 22, 2015 at 4:30 pm
No you just can’t be biased Mr straw man.
Harry Truman
Aug 22, 2015 at 4:36 pm
You’re right, but we’re talking about two situations, the x men are at war with people who want to lock them up forever, and war has casualties, in dc there’s no war, it’s the same plot, good guy, bad guy, good guy win, the end, then every once in a while they make them dye and come back, with superman a guy named “doomsday” (not creative) -fell from the sky, and, threw a punch, then the God superman, dies? Then out of nowhere, 6 supermen appear? What? Then the original comes, and, gets powers back, through, magic crystals? I don’t get it.
Charles Spates
Sep 1, 2015 at 2:39 am
No marvel has more. Get your facts right please.read the comics please my gosh
Vlogging Gamer
Sep 7, 2015 at 10:56 am
Ok, you guys can kill yourself (Jk) FIRSTLY, DC came first, marvel is just a cheap copy. SECONDLY, When people think of DC they think of superman, batman green lantern ETC not the villains (Have you asked everyone in the world about this?) THIRDLY, the avengers suck, once again Marvel is a copy, they can’t even beat some evil silver surfer. FOURTHLY, DC is easy to relate to UNLESS you are STUPID. FIFTLY, DC characters get killed easily (SO?) at least we don’t have hero’s that NEVER die. LASTLY, do argue with me!
DC Comics Fan
Sep 19, 2015 at 3:24 am
What is this?
Seriously?
The arguments make NO sense at all.
Is it easier to relate to mutants, or military experiments gone wrong?
And accidents don’t turn you into mutants, you are born with the power.
Point 1 is completely wrong, with no evidence. It is false.
Point 2 is biased.
Avengers are better?
Organization and planning is needed. Just fighting randomly is chaotic. The Justice League knows each other’s strengths and weaknesses, and work fluidly as a team. The Avengers are the same, as the both teams fight well, and function good.
Point 3 is wrong,
As for characters being killed off, it’s a pretty common known fact that Marvel is the one who is constantly killing characters. Yes DC kills em off sometimes too, but not like Marvel likes to. Jean Grey has been killed and brought back so many times that people joke about it. Captain America, Human Torch, Nightcrawler, Thor (twice), and even Spider-Man have all died in the last few years, only for all of them to reappear shortly after (not Spidey yet). Marvel has been doing a botch job a lot of times since Quesada took over, especially with all these ridiculous deaths, which many fans just laugh off, because we know they aren’t permanent, making the stories usually a big waste of time, and just a way for Marvel to get some more hype resulting in more cash.
Point 4 is a joke. Aquaman is really strong. Aquaman may be looked on as a petty character that can’t do anything but talk to his seahorse and dolphin friends, but, there is much more to Aquaman than most probably know, and here are some of the reasons why Aquaman is indeed a very super hero.
Aquaman’s most under looked power is his telepathic ability to communicate with marine life, which can be used from large distances. The part under looked is the fact that Aquaman has at times demonstrated the ability to affect any being that lives around the sea, or even any being evolved from marine life (humans).
With the obvious ability to breathe underwater Aquaman also has a few other abilities that people might not know about. Aquaman has superhuman durability high enough to remain unaffected by the immense pressure and the cold temperature of the ocean depths, this also makes him tough enough to beinvulnerable to machine gun fire. Along with that he also has superhuman strength and can swim at high speeds, able to reach speeds of 10,000 feet per second and can swim up Niagara Falls. He can see in near total darkness and has enhanced hearing granting limited sonar. Although he can remain underwater indefinitely without suffering any ill effects, Aquaman grows weak if he remains on land for extended periods. But, good old Batman invented Aquaman’s water suit so he was able to walk on land for an indefinite amount of time and was no longer vulnerable to a “dehumidifier”.
After the loss of his left hand, Aquaman replaced it with a cybernetic retractable hook, then a cybernetic hand. The mechanical hand was replaced by a magical hand made out of water given to him by the Lady of the Lake, which grants Aquaman numerous abilities, including the ability to dehydrate anyone he touches and kill them instantly, the ability to shoot jets of water from his hand, scalding or freezing, healing abilities, the ability to create portals into mystical dimensions, and the ability to communicate with the Lady of the Lake through the waterbearer hand.
Aquaman’s trident is indestructible, made of a magical gold substance and even strong enough to make Superman bleed. Another power of the Trident is the ability to electrocute objects. Also water can be fired from the tip of the Trident with temperatures from scorching, to below zero.
And lastly, point 5…
As for your last point, that list is dumb. People think of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman ahead of those villains. Maybe those villains are ahead of a lot of their heroes, but they still have a good amount of heroes that are widely known and popular. And saying Marvel is only known for their heroes is vindictive too. Magneto, Loki, Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin? I can guarantee you the majority of people who know even just a little about superhero movies/comics knows who these characters are.
This whole thing is complete nonsense. The author is an idiot. When you compare stuff, you’re not supposed to be biased.
And to the kid saying Deathstroke has armor made out of adamantium, you’re wrong, it’s promethium, and Deadpool was a copy of Deathstroke.
I hope the author finally comes to their sense, and stops being ridiculously biased.
Jasmine Sawalma
Oct 15, 2015 at 12:03 am
Here’s another reason why Marvel is better than DC: they offer more of a variety of superheroes. When you look at DC, the superheroes are always pretty with perfect bodies. But when you look at Marvel, they not only have a mutated rock man known as the Thing, but also a raccoon and a tree that says nothing but “I am Groot.”. And do I need to mention the X-men?
Josh Crabtree
Oct 24, 2015 at 11:02 pm
Both comics have great heroes and great villains, both have good and bad movies, and both rip each other off so stop debating because this is going nowhere. Seriously, these type of debates will never be settled so why bother with them. In fact, this the comment I’m currently writing is not going to really change anything because somebody will still think one of them is better
Josh
Oct 29, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Can’t the tridents also control water or without ripping off you no what “bend” it?
Josh
Oct 29, 2015 at 9:32 pm
Realistic? Ok don’t say marvel heroes could actual happen because they can’t. There just as unrealistic as dc. Also while marvel’s heroes are more relatable and less over the top they lose any real icon status. Yes they seem iconic for marvel comic readers but comic reader or not characters like superman or batman are known by everyone. And just because characters are more relatable doesn’t mean their better automatically. Finally, why don’t we consider dc characters like flash relatable because he’s just a human with superpowers like oh I don’t know Spider-Man perhaps
Josh
Oct 29, 2015 at 9:42 pm
Actually fantastic four was the copy of JLA since it was made in response to JLA ( really look it up) and the avengers are not proven as copies were marvel’s true petty is shown is the squadron supreme which was in my opinion just marvel’s way of being asses. But to be fair DC’s response was the Assemblers. To sum it up both the squadron and assemblers are just an embarrassment for both comics and shouldn’t ever be used
Abdu Abdi
Nov 29, 2015 at 2:59 am
there is a popular flash show on CW plus a lot of wonder woman animated movies
Reali
Jan 7, 2016 at 9:40 pm
1. Sorry but Hyperion, Sentinel, Phoenix and so many more are not really relatable. The funny thing about Superman is that he actually is more relatable than Iron Man.
2. Uh-ha… So, the team which constantly tosses in and out new members. And basically you say that the less organized the team the better? Well, I guess that’s why Civil War was so easy to start.
3. Let’s quickly go through several deaths of MARVEL heores. Spider-Man, the most popular hero of Marvel, is killed off and later revived in stupidest ways. Death of Wolverine is ruined with his ressurection in new comics. Deadpool’s death is also now insignificant.
4. Would you take Hawkeye seriously in his classic suit?
5. When I hear Marvel, my first thoughts are Carnage, Venom, Red Skull, Loki and Doctor Doom when I hear DC, my first thoughts are Batman, Flash, Nightwing. What’s your point?
Anthony "Ant" DiTullio
Jan 23, 2016 at 11:54 pm
I am a person who has been with DC since childhood, and I must say, this is the most unintelligent article I have ever read. First off, how on earth can you relate a soldier who drugged himself up to get ladies, or respect, or anything like that? Or a lone wolf who shoots claws out of his knuckles and goes back in time? No one can truly relate to any kind of comic book character whether it’s DC or marvel. Secondly, the Avengers may not plan things; but it really shows. Like I’m Age Of Ultron, they suddenly trust two siblings who tried killing them during more than one occasion? They trust a robot that was created by their greatest failure? They obviously don’t plan things and they may win, but they lose just as many things as gaining victory. The Justice League plans ahead do thy don’t do anything stupid like “earths mightiest heroes”. Also, killed off too easily? So you’re saying dying by finding your mother only to reveal that she’s working with your mentor’s greatest enemy and backstabs you and THEN dies by a bomb isn’t a good death scene for you? Let alone the FIRST death in comic book history? So Jason Todd is too wimpy for you? Okay then. Aquaman? You obviously never read The New 52 or scene is spot in BVS. He may not look like much, but he can get real mean, real fast. So when you start controlling the sea and fight off your half sibling and the man who worked with your now deceased mother, call me. And finally, DC is for mature readers that are into the darker things. DC can break rules and are ORIGINAL about it, much like Final Crisis, and good reads like that. Heck, DC comics and be called Dark Creations Comics for all I care. While Marvel still has Girl Scouts fighting villains and then recruiting them into their little club. -_- can’t see THAT going wrong.
Max T
Feb 9, 2016 at 5:06 pm
WTF? YOU’RE SAYING THAT THE FLASH AIN’T HUMAN, BUT HULK IS? YEAH, GREAT LOGIC MATE, WELL DONE. AND MARVEL KILL OFF CHARACTERS TOO, YOU’RE JUST NOT LISTING ANY. WHEN I THINK OF MARVEL, I THINK OF COPIED SCUMBAGS WITH NO ORIGINALITY.
Rohith
Feb 17, 2016 at 9:35 am
DC is good but Marvel is great, the way they relate their movies and all the characters they have made.
Bharat
Feb 21, 2016 at 9:00 am
superman! he is a guy who not gonna die Shazam too! wait marvel have Thor he gonna die in thor regnaknor which makes difference in both DC and Marvel world. I love Flash but hate superman and batman. where i couldn’t hate any marvel character
Kristian Allen
Mar 2, 2016 at 6:10 pm
Marvel has the best heroes and no matter how many times you claim them to be chalked off as copies they will always have different powers,abilities,backstories,costumes and last but not least,different names
Based on your logic every superhero copied god because humans have no powers
TMPCTD
Mar 9, 2016 at 2:34 pm
Lmao, I just found this. I had to read it because I knew it was from someone who just watches movies.
1. I agree, Marvel is more relatable
2. That is complete opinion, just because DC’s frontline characters are overpowered doesn’t mean they have a worse team.
3. Based on movies? Seems like you’re basing it off of Zod’s death. Whereas Marvel has yet to truly kill a major character (Loki died 2 times, Jean Grey died twice, Prof. X died, Cyclops died, Phil Coulson died, Pepper Potts seemingly died in a fire, and guess what? They all just came back like it was nothing)
4. Read Geoff Johns New 52 Aquaman and stop watching Super Friends and Robot Chicken, then you’ll be able to take Aquaman seriously
5. When someone says DC, whom do you think of? Batman, Superman, Joker, Wonder Woman, Darkseid, Flash, Green Lantern. You’re naming people who have appeared in movies. Of course if the majority of DC movies are Superman and Batman, there’s going to be a lack of familiarity with DC superheroes in live action, and mostly with their villains. At least watch the Justice League cartoons or something. Both universes have great heroes and villains, but no, people do not think of DC’s villains first.
whatever
Mar 29, 2016 at 10:32 am
dafuq dude, are you even objective? I was looking for a serious analysis of both DC and Marvel and you come up with this bullshit list of stupid reasons why Marvel is better than DC (i mean your 4th reason is not even a reason). I’m a both Marvel and DC reader and i don’t come using poor reasons to hating. Grow up bit will ya’, you got on my nerves
Cico Soto
Apr 9, 2016 at 1:18 pm
I believe that Marvel is better because they were created in a later time, while DC was made in like the 50’s and 60’s around that time period. And the world just doesn’t want those invincible, not relatable, and not really fun or funny superhero characters anymore. Marvel, or at least their movies, have proven to have great heroes who are not only relatable, but can crack a joke when the time is right, and also bring a serious attitude on the big screen. That is why I believe Marvel is better.
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 2:55 am
First, DC did not copy Civil War. Batman vs. Superman came out before Civil War and I assume you do not read the comics, otherwise you would have known this, Batman vs Superman comics came out years before the Civil War comics. Then, the best superheroes are a matter of opinion. Flash, there is a TV show about him. Wonder Woman, there is a movie coming out about about her. Green Arrow, tv show. Supergirl, tv show. Superman, tv show. Batman, tv show. For Marvel, Daredevil tv show. A glob of non-superheroes, tv show. Also, you do not need a TV show for a superhero for them to be the best! Is there a TV show about Cap? Iron Man? Thor? Hawkeye? Black Widow? Hulk? Squirrel Girl? No! Also, where is your proof Marvel has better story lines? Give me definitive proof. Also, I do not know about you, but some of the best superhero movies have come from DC. The Dark Knight trilogy, especially the Dark Knight, include some of the best stories. Then, the superheroes “just… aren’t that cool”? How about Aquaman, one of the most badass superheroes!
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:07 am
You do realize that the Flash was made eight years before Quicksilver and Firestorm is not a copy of Human Torch. Watch the Flash tv show, or look up Deathstorm. And are you serious? You are so desperate to get a point you actually start judging their clothing? Also you are correct in your question about Shazam, although your grammar does not make sense. But are you actually trying to say if a ten year old boy is a Superhero that is stupid? No, the only stupid thing is your argument.
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:11 am
First Harry, your words make no sense. God’s that are undetectable then dye? First, God’s should not be God’s, but Gods, second, undetectable? That makes no sense. Third, dye… you mean die? Fourth, yeah, Marvel does not use aliens… http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Aliens There are thirty-one pages of aliens. Fifth, Batman is less realistic? Um… his parents died, he created a business, wanted justice, fought evildoers… How is that not realistic?
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:17 am
Really? Not Flash, Green Arrow, Superman, Aquaman, Dogwelder, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, the amazing Dark Knight series (Some of the best superhero movies ever), and many more. DC has much more going for them and you are just a biased Marvel fanboy. Also reliability? What is so relatable about being a billionaire playboy that gets shot, a god, a god’s evil brother, a guy from the 1940s who has become a supersoldier, Hulk, a guy with serious anger issues, a slower version of the Flash, a (I must admit) cooler version of Green Arrow, a sexist woman who was only made for Marvel fans to drool, Black Widow, and countless others.
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:23 am
Um… DC was made in 1934 while Marvel was made in 1939… Then, DC characters are not invincible. They have one god. Ares. You have Thor. So shut up about invincibility. Then, DC is more relatable. DC deals with real loss. Just because they do not crack shitty jokes that detract from the plot does not mean that they are worse. And when have they proven to have great heroes on screen? You mean in the movies where you get to watch a dysfunctional group go around yelling at each other? Or, when you do not have actors and the entire movie is cg? Yeah, at least DC does not rely on fake explosions (Dark Knight hospital, holy sh**, they actually built that) to make their action scenes good. Nor do they rely on cameras that change so frequently its like watching Taylor Swift dump boyfriends.
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:26 am
Great! So they can have people of any skin color as long as it’s not black!
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:27 am
You think Aquaman is lame? Read the New 52 comics and say that again.
Ryan DeVries
Apr 16, 2016 at 3:31 am
Woman Woman has a movie coming out, Batman is a vigilante, so what? Why the hell does that even matter? The Flash, Arrow, and Supergirl all have tv shows which are quite interesting and follow the comics in interesting ways. Then you have AoS which has few relation to the comics. Then, DC broadcasts many characters too. As I previously mentioned watch the TV shows. The Flash has had Firestorm, Wally West, Barry Allen, Harrison Wells/Reverse Flash/Zoom, Killer Frost, Vibe, Deathstorm. Arrow has had Slade Wilson, Vixen, Oliver Queen, Arsenal, Black Canary, Spartan, and would you like me to continue?
Kate
Apr 16, 2016 at 9:54 am
okay, firstly, the whole Bat family are all human. do some research before spitting your shit out. and just like spider man, The Flash’s source of power coming from nature which is lightning (and Spiderman is the spider, except you make it another story in the amazing spidermans)
secondly, when speaking of DC, people think of Superman and Batman which are a whole lot famous than Marvel heroes, but if you think of those super villains first, it only means that our bad guys are better than yours LOL
thirdly, you didn’t feel excitement watching MoS because you already took side, and expected the worst from us.
you are just a mad little girl. go do your homework and idk maybe worry about Marvel’s racist issues instead of patronising our beloved world.
Elizabeth Do
Apr 29, 2016 at 2:38 am
Well Civil War actually has a reason for the war while Bat vs Supes is just hatred against each other. Superman’s the one who is pure in the movie. Batman’s just untrusting and impure. Basically, Marvel is for larger audiences. DC is more mature, inappropriate and dark while Marvel has light and less serious scenes. Have you seen DC crack a one liner or a joke in battle? Marvel and DC has both their fair share of copying, so your point is invalid.
TV shows? Dude, movies in my opinion are so much better. Movies gather much more money and audiences. Did you know Marvel makes more than DC? That’s a well known fact. Also, DC’s women characters all have showing cleavages and skimpy outfits. Some of the best superhero movies also come from Marvel. Iron Man gained more money than The Dark Knight.
Aquaman is okay, in my opinion. He’s the old king of the sea which if you actually think about it, he’s “copied” from Poseidon or Neptune.
Elizabeth Do
Apr 29, 2016 at 2:45 am
They are relatable. Iron Man is a billionaire that faces a problem with alcohol. That’s relatable. The mutants are outcasts in their society struggling to love themselves for being different. Very relatable. The Hulk has anger issues. Tell me if that isn’t relatable.
Elizabeth Do
Apr 29, 2016 at 2:49 am
Wow grammar Nazi much? His point is DC has characters that are unhuman like and from another world, planet, and universe.
Elizabeth Do
Apr 29, 2016 at 3:01 am
Relatable because Tony Stark has alcohol problems, a misunderstood villain, and a guy who’s too weak for the world but will never give up. Regular people have anger issues. Black Widow? Sexist? Uh no have you seen Wonder Woman? She shows cleavage and legs like it’s nothing. How is Black Widow sexist? Name a reason and I’ll listen.
John
May 22, 2016 at 11:36 pm
Well, DC has Captain Marvel and Marvel has Ms. Marvel – that is, until
DC missed a year from renewing their patent when Marvel decided to
change Ms. Marvel to Captain Marvel so DC would have to call their hero
Shazam instead, which was what he said to turn into Captain Marvel.
John
May 23, 2016 at 12:43 am
Marvel is more entertaining because somewhat of what he said is relevant. Particularly, marvel characters have weaknesses and when they fight, their adversaries are usually equal in strength. However, his disappointment with Aquaman has more to do with the writers and illustrators than the character himself – you give me an Aquaman drawn like that Jason Mamoa image and a good storyline and I see promise. But back to the point – For someone to beat a hero such as Superman, you would need a little green rock (maybe a red sun) but it is absurd that that is his one weakness. You would have virtually no means of beating him. So DC fixes this by introducing adversaries that are even more powerful (ridiculous). Now the problem with this is – he is one Kryptonian fighting 20+ Kryptonians and he wins which is even more ludicrous. Now take
Ryan DeVries
May 29, 2016 at 4:33 am
So? Just because a movie makes more money does not mean it is better. The Dark Knight has the highest ratings of any Marvel and DC movie on almost every single film review website. And does it matter if she is showing her boobs? What is so bad about that and look at the recent forms of Wonder Woman where she is much different. Also, Marvel has only one main woman, Black Widow, who is only there for the MCU to say, “No! We aren’t sexist look, we have a girl!” DC has many female characters who they have invested in, Supergirl, Hawkgirl, and Wonder Woman to name a few. Also, read the comics and stop being ignorant. Marvel is light years darker than DC in comics and Batman vs Superman has a story; just because Zack Snyder directs it does not mean you can throw away the comics. Again, DC is not inappropriate and the Dark Knight is again, one of the best pieces of superhero cinema to ever be released. If it wasn’t, why is it number four on IMDB’s top movies ever? Even above Citizen Kane? The first Marvel movie follows two or three DC coming in at 123. Also, Aquaman is not copied from Poseidon or Neptune, he is actually friends and has a largely different subset of powers. And Marvel has copied so many more characters. Darkseid – Thanos, Gladiator – Captain America, Brainiac – Ultron, Doom Patrol – X-Men, Red Tornado – Vision, Green Lantern Corps – Nova Corps, Green Arrow – Hawkeye, Deathstroke – Deadpool, Plastic Man and Elongated Man – Mr. Fantastic, Flash – Quicksilver, and many more. Since you only care about what has happened in the past ten years though here, Marvel has gone bankrupt a multitude of times, their comics were a joke before the 80’s and 90’s, and just because you enjoy movies more than TV shows does not mean they are better. Finally, remember DC actually has people die while Marvel brings does not kill or they just bring them back to life because they do not want any of their viewers being sad.
Ryan DeVries
May 29, 2016 at 4:37 am
Actually, I am a grammarian, so you were correct with that; however, the Nazis are HYDRA, pretty basic information. Also, universe? What DC characters are from another universe?!
Samiyah Khan
Jun 7, 2016 at 8:22 pm
This is coming from a DC fan turned Marvel fan. The reason I ever liked DC was because the superheroes were pretty epic, they had unique powers whereas Marvel always had very mainstreamed based heroes. However, after watching The Avengers: Age of Ultron I was proven well wrong. I switched to Marvel because I realized their character are so much more fun and have their very own intricate personalities. Even when the situation is very serious and heavy, somehow someone will find a way to lighten the mood or make a joke. Most of the heroes are also human themselves turned into hero they are, making us humans imagine and fantasize things easily. The Avengers are honestly a better team than the Justice League. The Avengers have amazing friendship, combat techniques, teamwork, respect for each other, better problem solving skills and the trust every team needs, the same can’t be said about the Justice League. Marvel also has diversity, variety and originality. Some heroes got their powers by accidents, some who were experimented on, injected with a serum, excessively trained as a spy or under S.H.I.E.L.D’s facility, some are from another goddamn Earth and also people who were just born that way. The heroes actually have better stories to tell, intriguing powers to use and personalities of gold.
jordan999fire
Jun 20, 2016 at 11:44 am
I don’t think people understand how cool Aquaman really is. Okay imagine a human that lived on Earth (as in dirt not the actual planet as that should be a given) but any living thing would do what that person says without question, thats Aquaman just for the ocean instead. Also you said most of DC are non human, well you are right and wrong. Flash wasn’t born fast he was made fast, actually anyone who was born on Earth in DC was given powers not born with them. Not to mention DC is superheros trying to live as normal humans, were Marvel is normal humans trying to live as superheros. Not to mention Marvel is a really up beat and happy comic industry, but DC is more of a mature darker place. For example, Batman watched his parents die, Supermans entire planet was blown up, J’onn J’onzz is the last Martian alive, Wonder Woman was banished from her own land, Deathstroke’s son got possesed so he had to kill him, and there is more. When you said that DC heroes die to easy, you are 100% correct, but that is what we like about our heroes. I like Marvel but it gets annoying, even for someone who likes both, to read a Ghost Rider comic and know that nothing is going to happen to him. He’s a spawn of hell. I like reading a Batman book and thinking that Batman could actually die and get replaced in this comic. When you said the Avengers are better then the Justice League, um, no. The Justice League have hundreds of members with different abilities, and even if you are going with the Big Seven then all, but two of them were born human, (Green Lantern, Aquaman (debatable) Wonder Woman, Batman, and The Flash) thus being Superman and Martian Manhunter. Also the reason they plan is so less innocents die. They have actually talked enemies out of being evil before just by planning. The Avengers go in and instantly start shooting. Lastly the villain thing is for one false, and two debatable. In Marvel some villains are villains for good reason, others just because they want to. In DC they all either have a good reason, had bad childhood, or are mentally challenged. Very few DC villains do it cause they just want to be mean. Also the reason your statement was false is because Superman is the face of comics, always has been and always will be, matter a fact if you walked around and asked people to name a super hero you would get more Batman, and Superman, then you would any Marvel. Marvel heroes (minus Spider-Man) have gotten popular because of movies. Same with DC but before these movies everyone knew who The Joker was, who Batman was, who The Flash was, and who Superman was. Also two side notes, first off you shouldn’t compare the Justice League (unless you just mean the Big Seven) to The Avengers, you should compare more like Teen Titans to the Avengers, now if you compared the X-Men to the Justice League I could accept that. Secondly, Marvel has ripped off DC A LOT!! Don’t get me wrong though, even though I am clearly a big DC fan, in my top 3 favorite Supercharacters the 2nd and 3rd are both Marvel.
jordan999fire
Jun 20, 2016 at 11:55 am
Marvel heroes are way more overpowered. Wolverine, Deadpool, Ghost Rider, Hulk, Thor, and many more Superheros that can’t die. DC has overpowered one too but they also have strong weaknesses. Superman can’t get close to Kryptonite without almost dying, Flash can actually run into something if he isn’t paying attention and die, Deathstroke can be shot in the head. Also I don’t think Deadpool has anymore personality then Deathstroke. Deathstroke grew up in a rough family, joined the military at 16 to get away, his commanding officer turned into his wife and they had kids, he was the best of the best, he signed up for a super soldier program, the effects made him go crazy and kill his son, his wife shot him in the eye for revenge, his daughter followed in his ways and became his partner after his first partner, and best friend, betrayed him and he had to kill them, then his son was possessed by a demon and Deathstroke had to kill him while crying, and multiple times Deathstroke has said that he wishes he could stop killing innocents, and killing for money but that is the only thing he is good at, and he’s afraid he would go insane again if he was alone for along time.
ruhanboii2k16
Jun 21, 2016 at 11:21 pm
To be honest most characters you say are better are the heroes, most were copied from dc so for dc to have all villians and heroes to be mostly their idea makes marvel sound shit. Also aquaman rides a seahorse because he owns the seas and ocean so the way humans dont ride bears aquaman wont ride a shark(if you know what i mean) Even though i like dc more than marvel is good but if you want to make more attractive comics dc has done that but to argue that marvel is better because there are humans in their which you say people can relate to doesnt make sense its like saying you actually seen spiderman save someone both are fake they are just their for entertainment
If you disagree obviously you dont know marvel and dc properly.
Magneto Kabuto
Jun 27, 2016 at 1:34 pm
Marvel is the best EVER! I mean DC is so old! Marvel’s movies are better. X-men, The Avengers,Guardians of the Galaxy and so many more! all i know in DC is the Justice League. btw check this image out:
Adventurer Bob
Jun 27, 2016 at 1:39 pm
Marvel is the best! DC is so old and im tired of watching it so i discovered Marvel. I found it enjoying so i prefer Marvel than DC because DC is just….. BORING!
Booby McBoob
Jul 11, 2016 at 1:47 am
NOOOOOOOO!!!! D.C for the win!!!
Mickie Ezra
Aug 8, 2016 at 7:14 am
Personally as far as comics go, both have their flaws and strengths. But as far as movie wise I’ll choose DC. Marvel tends to take a more colorful, heroic approach with their heroes. They also tend to make them less powerful and interesting than they are in the comics *cough* Black Widow *cough*. DC brings a more grown up approach to heroes. There movies have a more dark, realistic feel. They have flaws and are easily relatable. This is coming from an 18 year old mind you. I just feel like marvel takes a more child like approach because much of their audiences are made up of children.
Joe
Sep 5, 2016 at 11:34 am
Learn your stuff before you start talking shit. I’m a light weight comic book nerd and know that saying Spidermam’s humanity is definitely comparable to the flash being human. Don’t be stupid, they both were human and became Supers.
Maitri
Nov 22, 2016 at 3:25 pm
I totally agree. Both Marvel and DC are good, but I do prefer Marvel. I feel like Marvel puts a lot more thought into their movies and really pays attention to detail. Also how can you not LOVE Stan Lee cameos. Admittedly the Joker (portrayed bu Heath Ledger) is one of my favorites EVER, but the stories of Marvel are just more exciting and always keep you on your toes.
Maitri
Nov 22, 2016 at 3:26 pm
True, but they can be born to human parents so technically they are inherently human
Dyllan Pettway
Dec 12, 2016 at 8:18 pm
I love marvel because iron man is the first marvel super hero that I had ever seen.